Comments on: Royal Blue Toyota Corollas Banned in Dublin http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm Kansas City Irish Festivals, Music, Pubs, & Events by an Artist in Ireland Sat, 26 May 2012 12:54:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: eolai http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49826 eolai Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:15:48 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49826 Medbh, Done. Here then is the debut of <a href="http://irishkc.com/index.php/the-dog.htm" rel="nofollow">The Dog</a> Medbh,

Done. Here then is the debut of The Dog

]]> By: Medbh http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49822 Medbh Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:11:57 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49822 It strikes me that your point might carry real legal legs, Eolai on a Constitutional basis recognizing the primacy and autonomy of the Irish family. I hope someone runs with that. Thanks for the link, Eolai. Gladwell's builds his arguments really well. Even though they are banned in Ontario, I see pit-bulls all over the place. I don't think there are many people who are authorized to enforce it or who are even interested in seizing dogs. It's still a bad precedence to set because of its limited scope. It made me worry a bit about my own dog even though he's an ancient mutt. You should post a picture of your dog in a gesture of inter-species solidarity. It strikes me that your point might carry real legal legs, Eolai on a Constitutional basis recognizing the primacy and autonomy of the Irish family. I hope someone runs with that.
Thanks for the link, Eolai. Gladwell’s builds his arguments really well. Even though they are banned in Ontario, I see pit-bulls all over the place. I don’t think there are many people who are authorized to enforce it or who are even interested in seizing dogs. It’s still a bad precedence to set because of its limited scope.
It made me worry a bit about my own dog even though he’s an ancient mutt.
You should post a picture of your dog in a gesture of inter-species solidarity.

]]> By: eolai http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49815 eolai Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:57:14 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49815 Primal, It is only because of complaints that I'm aware that Galway Co Co adopted the same by-law. It certainly sounds unenforceable regardless of which county is adopting it, because after all existing laws would take care of the problem if they were applied and it is the same people that are expected to enforce the new laws. I would think it's news now because it's now that Dublin is planning to introduce it. Do you know if the method of introduction proposed is the same for Dublin as however it was introduced in Galway? I think in the last year or two there have been similar laws adopted or proposed in the North, in England and in Ontario, all of them making the news when proposed and all of them meeting the same complaints. So I can't see it being a case of Dublin being news versus other Irish counties not being so. Medbh on her site talks of some of the details that <a href="http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_02_06_a_pitbull.html" rel="nofollow">Malcolm Gladwell quoted when he debunked the basis of these laws</a>. It's well worth a read. Primal,

It is only because of complaints that I’m aware that Galway Co Co adopted the same by-law.

It certainly sounds unenforceable regardless of which county is adopting it, because after all existing laws would take care of the problem if they were applied and it is the same people that are expected to enforce the new laws.

I would think it’s news now because it’s now that Dublin is planning to introduce it. Do you know if the method of introduction proposed is the same for Dublin as however it was introduced in Galway?

I think in the last year or two there have been similar laws adopted or proposed in the North, in England and in Ontario, all of them making the news when proposed and all of them meeting the same complaints. So I can’t see it being a case of Dublin being news versus other Irish counties not being so.

Medbh on her site talks of some of the details that Malcolm Gladwell quoted when he debunked the basis of these laws. It’s well worth a read.

]]> By: Primal Sneeze http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49812 Primal Sneeze Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:06:16 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49812 I'm confused here: Galway has had the same by-law for two years now and there haven't been any complaints I know of. Failure to enforce in Galway meant it wasn't an issue? Galwegians accepted it as a just law? Galwegians simply accepted it as Dubliners, on the contrary, did not accept other by-laws lying down, such as bin charges? Is it just that Dublin is news? (Sorry. I'm grumpy these days. I'm not saying I agree with the by-law - just confused - or misinformed). I’m confused here: Galway has had the same by-law for two years now and there haven’t been any complaints I know of.

Failure to enforce in Galway meant it wasn’t an issue? Galwegians accepted it as a just law? Galwegians simply accepted it as Dubliners, on the contrary, did not accept other by-laws lying down, such as bin charges? Is it just that Dublin is news?

(Sorry. I’m grumpy these days. I’m not saying I agree with the by-law - just confused - or misinformed).

]]> By: eolai http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49797 eolai Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:48:47 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49797 The ignorance and laziness this kind of governing betrays is shocking. I can't help wondering if existing pets that have done no social wrong wouldn't be protected under Article 40 of the Constitution in the sense that they are property of a citizen and those property rights are protected. Or maybe a pet having family status would be afforded protection under Article 41 so as not to break up the natural primary and fundamental unit group of Society, which after all does possess inalienable and imprescriptible rights, antecedent and superior to all positive law. What meaning does the term "family pet" confer, after all? ;) The ignorance and laziness this kind of governing betrays is shocking.

I can’t help wondering if existing pets that have done no social wrong wouldn’t be protected under Article 40 of the Constitution in the sense that they are property of a citizen and those property rights are protected.

Or maybe a pet having family status would be afforded protection under Article 41 so as not to break up the natural primary and fundamental unit group of Society, which after all does possess inalienable and imprescriptible rights, antecedent and superior to all positive law. What meaning does the term “family pet” confer, after all? ;)

]]> By: Medbh http://irishkc.com/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49788 Medbh Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:03:42 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/royal-blue-toyota-corollas-banned-in-dublin.htm#comment-49788 What a smart allegory, Eolai. The ruling is an outrage and makes no sense whatsoever. What a smart allegory, Eolai.
The ruling is an outrage and makes no sense whatsoever.

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