Comments on: Is Ireland Really Green, Potato-Eating, and Red-Haired ? http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm Kansas City Irish Festivals, Music, Pubs, & Events by an Artist in Ireland Sat, 26 May 2012 05:47:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: cyrell http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-312287 cyrell Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:54:46 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-312287 Not nice to say you would hurt someones pet when he or she said something that angered you. The pet did not tell you things that made you angry, so why hurt an innocent animal? Or would you also say you kick the children of the people who angried you? I always had the impression that irish people would solve their problems with the people who caused it and not hurt people the sneaky way with hurting weaker family members. But maybe my gran taught me wrong things about my heritage? Words are not enough reason to hurt the innocents. May Pooka bite you in the ass for that. And yes, I know it is written differently but I like the combination of letters better. Oh..by the way...brokkolie soup! Not nice to say you would hurt someones pet when he or she said something that angered you.

The pet did not tell you things that made you angry, so why hurt an innocent animal?

Or would you also say you kick the children of the people who angried you?

I always had the impression that irish people would solve their problems with the people who caused it and not hurt people the sneaky way with hurting weaker family members.

But maybe my gran taught me wrong things about my heritage?

Words are not enough reason to hurt the innocents.

May Pooka bite you in the ass for that.

And yes, I know it is written differently but I like the combination of letters better.

Oh..by the way…brokkolie soup!

]]> By: Eolaí http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-284584 Eolaí Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:38:20 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-284584 Nicolas, did you read the comments with the statistics and quoted sources and links for them? Do you dispute them, and if so can you give us alternative figures and sources rather just claim something? Nicolas, did you read the comments with the statistics and quoted sources and links for them? Do you dispute them, and if so can you give us alternative figures and sources rather just claim something?

]]> By: Nicolas Martin http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-284564 Nicolas Martin Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:23:52 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-284564 Ireland is not currently among the top 10 countries in per capita potato consumption, nor is the US, but the UK is. Ireland is not currently among the top 10 countries in per capita potato consumption, nor is the US, but the UK is.

]]> By: Ellen K. http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47067 Ellen K. Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:38:12 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47067 Canned potatoes: think stew. And hash. That would be the form of canned potatoes I've seen and I would think the most common. Canned potatoes: think stew. And hash. That would be the form of canned potatoes I’ve seen and I would think the most common.

]]> By: eolai http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47053 eolai Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:33:37 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47053 They can everything. And it's not simply a product of modern mass production - everybody 's grandmother does it. I think it's a pioneering survival thing, like pickling. There are different verbs for it in different parts of the country. In parts of the South it is "to put up". It means you can have new potatoes for Christmas. Old new potatoes. Very small old new potatoes. Tasting of brine. They can everything. And it’s not simply a product of modern mass production - everybody ’s grandmother does it. I think it’s a pioneering survival thing, like pickling.

There are different verbs for it in different parts of the country. In parts of the South it is “to put up”.

It means you can have new potatoes for Christmas. Old new potatoes. Very small old new potatoes. Tasting of brine.

]]> By: Primal Sneeze http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47042 Primal Sneeze Sat, 09 Jun 2007 04:29:51 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47042 <i>1.9 - Canned</i> - I didn't know they canned spuds. Interesting, but why would they bother? 1.9 - Canned - I didn’t know they canned spuds. Interesting, but why would they bother?

]]> By: Bock the Robber http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47035 Bock the Robber Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:37:33 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-47035 All right. That doesn't look good for the Paddies. Do you have any figures for the amount of potatoes soaked in fat? All right. That doesn’t look good for the Paddies.

Do you have any figures for the amount of potatoes soaked in fat?

]]> By: eolai http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46988 eolai Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:32:22 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46988 I do Bock, for that is the sort of man I am. Total consumption in the US of Potatoes in all forms in 1990 was 129lbs per capita. (129lbs =59Kg) This is broken down as follows (in lbs): 47.4 - Fresh 49.9 - Frozen 17.3 - Chips 12.8 - Dehydrated 1.9 - Canned Source: <em>1946-1990. World Supply and Demand Situation, ERS, USDA Handbook of Food Expenditures, Prices, and Consumption</em> <a href="http://cropandsoil.oregonstate.edu/classes/CSS322/Introwp.htm" rel="nofollow">Link</a> This 59 kg per capita in the US compares with Ireland’s per capita potato consumption of 143 kg per year (which surpasses that of rival high consumers in Europe - the Portuguese consume 107 kg per year and Spaniards 106 kg) (Lysaght 1994). Potato consumption is on the rise in most parts of the world. Average annual per capita consumption is reported to be highest in certain highland regions of Rwanda (153 kg), Peru (100 to 200 kg), and highland Asia (no figures available) (Woolfe 1987), with the largest rate of increase in lowland Asia. <a href="http://www.cambridge.org/us/books/kiple/potatoes.htm" rel="nofollow">Link</a> - that's to the <em>Cambridge Book of Food</em> published in 2000. So in short, despite pasta and rice, Ireland definitely still consumes a lot of potatoes compared to anywhere in the world, and most definitely compared to the US. In the US the biggest changes have been in the classification of potato consumed rather than the amount. The potato crisp is 150 years old, but in the last 50 years that snack market has been eaten into (sorry) by corn based snacks. I do Bock, for that is the sort of man I am.

Total consumption in the US of Potatoes in all forms in 1990 was 129lbs per capita. (129lbs =59Kg)

This is broken down as follows (in lbs):
47.4 - Fresh
49.9 - Frozen
17.3 - Chips
12.8 - Dehydrated
1.9 - Canned

Source: 1946-1990. World Supply and Demand Situation, ERS, USDA Handbook of Food Expenditures, Prices, and Consumption Link

This 59 kg per capita in the US compares with Ireland’s per capita potato consumption of 143 kg per year (which surpasses that of rival high consumers in Europe - the Portuguese consume 107 kg per year and Spaniards 106 kg) (Lysaght 1994).

Potato consumption is on the rise in most parts of the world. Average annual per capita consumption is reported to be highest in certain highland regions of Rwanda (153 kg), Peru (100 to 200 kg), and highland Asia (no figures available) (Woolfe 1987), with the largest rate of increase in lowland Asia.

Link - that’s to the Cambridge Book of Food published in 2000.

So in short, despite pasta and rice, Ireland definitely still consumes a lot of potatoes compared to anywhere in the world, and most definitely compared to the US. In the US the biggest changes have been in the classification of potato consumed rather than the amount. The potato crisp is 150 years old, but in the last 50 years that snack market has been eaten into (sorry) by corn based snacks.

]]> By: Bock the Robber http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46985 Bock the Robber Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:39:17 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46985 I suspect the expression "Emerald Isle" was dreamed up in Tin Pan Alley. Do you have any figures on the amount of spuds consumed by Americans in the form of crisps and suchlike? I suspect the expression “Emerald Isle” was dreamed up in Tin Pan Alley. Do you have any figures on the amount of spuds consumed by Americans in the form of crisps and suchlike?

]]> By: eolai http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46976 eolai Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:23:15 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46976 Annie - I don't know what to say, only something not funny. Medbh - Hit them where it hurts, which may well be on a long snout. Yes. people from Ireland have visited me in KC and usually the second question they ask me is: <em>Brown grass</em>? The first question we'll cover in a post another day. And as for the Hell question, that's answered over there in the Q&A section. No, really. Chris - Ah yes but Chris why isn't Britain referred to as the Emerald Isle? And why don't people talk about Ireland's green and pleasant land? And then there is such a thing as marketing, and Johnny Cash singing about 40 Shades of Green which has lasted longer in the public conscious than the <em>Boomtown Rat</em>'s 60 Shades of Red rebuke. Your question about where did you go wrong, I could of course answer, but I don't really have the time right now to start running a whole new blog. ;) Annie - I don’t know what to say, only something not funny.

Medbh - Hit them where it hurts, which may well be on a long snout. Yes. people from Ireland have visited me in KC and usually the second question they ask me is: Brown grass? The first question we’ll cover in a post another day. And as for the Hell question, that’s answered over there in the Q&A section. No, really.

Chris - Ah yes but Chris why isn’t Britain referred to as the Emerald Isle? And why don’t people talk about Ireland’s green and pleasant land? And then there is such a thing as marketing, and Johnny Cash singing about 40 Shades of Green which has lasted longer in the public conscious than the Boomtown Rat’s 60 Shades of Red rebuke.

Your question about where did you go wrong, I could of course answer, but I don’t really have the time right now to start running a whole new blog. ;)

]]> By: chris http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46930 chris Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:12:38 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46930 There is something to the "green" thing. Why else would Ireland be referred to as the "Emerald Isle"? When approaching Ireland by plane, at a certain point, all you see is green. It's because the grass stays green all year around. It doesn't die off like here in KS/MO. And the potato bit... when I was in Ireland for 9 months one year, I was either offered or automatically served some form of potato at every meal. Fried potato for breakfast, chips, mash, boiled, broiled, roasted, and tato crisps to fill in the blanks between all meals. As for the red hair... didn't particularly see an overwhelming amount of red haired people while in Ireland but I did, by chance, have a beautiful red haired Irish girlfriend that made me feel like there was a lot of reds over there. What a combo... Emerald Isle, spuds at every meal and a genuine red headed Irish lass... where did I go wrong... There is something to the “green” thing. Why else would Ireland be referred to as the “Emerald Isle”? When approaching Ireland by plane, at a certain point, all you see is green. It’s because the grass stays green all year around. It doesn’t die off like here in KS/MO. And the potato bit… when I was in Ireland for 9 months one year, I was either offered or automatically served some form of potato at every meal. Fried potato for breakfast, chips, mash, boiled, broiled, roasted, and tato crisps to fill in the blanks between all meals. As for the red hair… didn’t particularly see an overwhelming amount of red haired people while in Ireland but I did, by chance, have a beautiful red haired Irish girlfriend that made me feel like there was a lot of reds over there. What a combo… Emerald Isle, spuds at every meal and a genuine red headed Irish lass… where did I go wrong…

]]> By: Medbh http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46912 Medbh Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:46:50 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46912 By all means smack the dumb folks who throw stereotypes at you but don't hit their pets, Eolai. The grass we had in Kansas was straw colored and filled with the sharpest barbed burrs that stayed embedded in shoes and socks long after we moved. We could never walk outside barefooted. Oh and they burned it down every April or May for the cows. It was like living in hell. Hence the name of your other blog? By all means smack the dumb folks who throw stereotypes at you but don’t hit their pets, Eolai.
The grass we had in Kansas was straw colored and filled with the sharpest barbed burrs that stayed embedded in shoes and socks long after we moved. We could never walk outside barefooted. Oh and they burned it down every April or May for the cows. It was like living in hell. Hence the name of your other blog?

]]> By: Annie Rhiannon http://irishkc.com/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46901 Annie Rhiannon Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:02:35 +0000 http://irishkc.com/index.php/is-ireland-really-green-potato-eating-and-red-haired.htm#comment-46901 "If everyone had red hair then why would we call them names?" Hee, so true. I get my gingerness from my Irish mammy, but nobody dares insult me because they know I'm funnier than they could ever possibly be about it. “If everyone had red hair then why would we call them names?”

Hee, so true.

I get my gingerness from my Irish mammy, but nobody dares insult me because they know I’m funnier than they could ever possibly be about it.

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