Comments on: Irish Immigrants & Bad Birds http://irishkc.com/irish-immigrants-bad-birds.htm Kansas City Irish Festivals, Music, Pubs, & Events by an Artist in Ireland Sat, 26 May 2012 08:35:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Irish KC http://irishkc.com/irish-immigrants-bad-birds.htm#comment-24 Irish KC Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:41:00 +0000 http://irishkc.com/?p=204#comment-24 Now now anonymous, I think taking half-sentences out of context and elevating them to full comments is unhelpful. Bridget didn't simply say "we should all strive to be crooks", she actually said "If that's (working hard just to keep their heads above water) the definition of a criminal, then we should all strive to be crooks". So if you want to shorten it you can paraphrase as "we should all strive to work hard to keep our heads above water" which strikes me as very realistic, and not at all silly. By all means disagree with that equation, but disagreeing with something nobody said is quite pointless. Now now anonymous, I think taking half-sentences out of context and elevating them to full comments is unhelpful.

Bridget didn’t simply say “we should all strive to be crooks”, she actually said “If that’s (working hard just to keep their heads above water) the definition of a criminal, then we should all strive to be crooks”.

So if you want to shorten it you can paraphrase as “we should all strive to work hard to keep our heads above water” which strikes me as very realistic, and not at all silly.

By all means disagree with that equation, but disagreeing with something nobody said is quite pointless.

]]> By: Anonymous http://irishkc.com/irish-immigrants-bad-birds.htm#comment-23 Anonymous Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:15:00 +0000 http://irishkc.com/?p=204#comment-23 The only answer for this country and every country in the world may be labled "legal immigration". Legal immigration is a good thing. It is a legal thing. It is not effected by how hard somebody works. Illegal immigration is a bad thing. It goes against the Law which is in place to maintain Order. You know countries must have and maintain order. Look around at the ones that do not have order. Since the dawn of time people have been immigrating to new territories, new lands, new places and new countries. At one time or another the people which claim a particular place as their own establish rules for outsiders coming in. These rules are called Laws. Laws are an absolute necessary part of keeping Order. It's hard or maybe impossible to have one without the other. Laws do not work either because they are wrong or they are not enforced. In my opinion, Both are the case in America. As an American, try going to Ireland and being an illegal immigrant. You will not get a job, you will get no education or government assistance and worst of all... most (not all) of the native Irish will tell you to go home in a most rude and vulgar manner. Good luck. The definition of a criminal is one who breaks the Law. If you strive to be a criminal, break the law. If you do not agree with the US immigration laws, do something about it. Making comments like "we should all strive to be crooks" is no help to anybody and sounds very silly and unrealistic to me. The only answer for this country and every country in the world may be labled “legal immigration”. Legal immigration is a good thing. It is a legal thing. It is not effected by how hard somebody works. Illegal immigration is a bad thing. It goes against the Law which is in place to maintain Order. You know countries must have and maintain order. Look around at the ones that do not have order.

Since the dawn of time people have been immigrating to new territories, new lands, new places and new countries. At one time or another the people which claim a particular place as their own establish rules for outsiders coming in. These rules are called Laws. Laws are an absolute necessary part of keeping Order. It’s hard or maybe impossible to have one without the other. Laws do not work either because they are wrong or they are not enforced. In my opinion, Both are the case in America.

As an American, try going to Ireland and being an illegal immigrant. You will not get a job, you will get no education or government assistance and worst of all… most (not all) of the native Irish will tell you to go home in a most rude and vulgar manner.

Good luck.

The definition of a criminal is one who breaks the Law. If you strive to be a criminal, break the law.

If you do not agree with the US immigration laws, do something about it. Making comments like “we should all strive to be crooks” is no help to anybody and sounds very silly and unrealistic to me.

]]> By: Bridget http://irishkc.com/irish-immigrants-bad-birds.htm#comment-22 Bridget Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:57:00 +0000 http://irishkc.com/?p=204#comment-22 I'm with you. I know this topic is complicated, but I just can't get past the fact that most families in this country immigrated here relatively recently. My family, who immigrated here a few generations ago, has received so many blessings in this country. How can I say that others shouldn't get the same opportunity? Also, I've watched how hard immigrants and refugees work in America just to keep their heads above water. If that's the definition of a criminal, then we should all strive to be crooks. I’m with you.
I know this topic is complicated, but I just can’t get past the fact that most families in this country immigrated here relatively recently. My family, who immigrated here a few generations ago, has received so many blessings in this country. How can I say that others shouldn’t get the same opportunity? Also, I’ve watched how hard immigrants and refugees work in America just to keep their heads above water. If that’s the definition of a criminal, then we should all strive to be crooks.

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